Thursday, December 3, 2015

Y-dna Movements of the R1b Tribes of Israel


On the internet we see many charts tracing the migration of dna haplogroups from their believed places of origin to where they are found today. This information is sometimes supplemented with ancient dna which can be helpful when interpreted in the correct time scale. Of course most of these charts are done by people who accept the evolutionary dating of cultures, archaeological sites and genetics. Much of this is the guesswork of the authors of these charts. 

Some see the origin of a haplogroup as the place where it has its greatest variety, others where it is today the most populous. The place where it has its greatest variety is a good place to start. However one must be aware that there may be other factors why this place has the greatest variety. The place of origin today may have no one of that haplogroup present due to a number of factors. Environment also can cause a mutation in a group of people of the same dna which has not been taken into account by many even though there are scientific studies that demonstrate that environment is also an important factor.

Recently I have been reflecting on the movement of R1b into Europe. One will often see charts marking some kind of movement of R1b from Iran ( R1b M343+) to Central Europe via the Russian Steppes. Other believe R1b's original home was in Eastern Turkey. In fact R1b M343 began in Israel (sons of Reuben, Judah, Simeon, Levi, Zebulon and Issachar) and then moved south to Egypt (R1b P25+). A branch of Reuben (R1b M335+)  left Egypt and settled in Anatolia (Turkey). The black sons of Moses (R1b V88+) by his Cushite wife went south into Africa, while his white sons of R1b V88+ by his Midianite wife went with the other Israelites into Canaan (Israel). Those Israelites who are R1b M343+ P25- represent those R1b Israelites who left Egypt before the enslavement of the Israelites by the Egyptians. 


R1b M73+ represent the sons of Zerah Judah who went south to the Australian Egypto-Israelite colonies and north to Anatolia as the Rulers. Thus the mutation of M73 took place in Egypt. The bulk of the R1b Israelites who left Egypt in the Exodus for Israel were R1b M269+ (which may have occurred in wilderness at Sinai). The Levites and Cohenim who went into the Northern Tribes of Israel (Joseph) were R1b M269+ L23- while the bulk of  the R1b Tribes were R1b L23+. R1b L51+ represents the sons of Leah R1b Tribes of the time of the separate ten tribed Kingdom of Israel (Samaria). R1b Z2103+ represents those of R1b of the southern Kingdom of Judah (mostly Judah, Davidic House of Solomon, Levi and Cohenim).

One branch of the Tribe of Zebulon became R1b U106+ who as tall blonde haired sailors and warriors established colonies in Tharshish and Zarephath in Western Europe that eventually spread to the Americas. They may have been assisted in this by Ephraimite Phoenicians of R1a SYR1532.2- [also called R1a (xSYR1532.2) or M420*]. These are the so-called blonde haired blue eyed ancient Greeks of the Iliad and Odysseus. The Zebulonite R1b make up less then 5 % of the population of modern Greece. The bulk of the R1b Northern Israelites remained in Israel as R1b P312/S116+. It would seem that a branch of the Davidic House of Nathan (R1b L21) was part of the Northern Israelite kingdom who went into the southern colonies in Australia to Kedar (which was ruled by a Nathanite Prince) in the 7th century BC. A large group of them later returned to the West and settled in Libya and Anatolia before moving to Spain and then the British Isles.

At the time of the Assyrian advance on Israel around 600 BC (721 BC of the accepted modern chronology of academia) the bulk of the Tribe of Simeon moved across the Mediterranean to the Israelite colonies in Spain (R1b DF 27). The Assyrians moved some of the tribes to the North (who later moved into Europe across the Russian steps) and to the mountains of the South (who later moved south into South East Asia and Australia). The Zebulonites of  R1b  L238/S182 went north and moved eventually into Scandinavia along with the Northern Reubenites of R1b U152 and the Tribe of Issachar of  R1b DF19/S232 and the R1a Israelites of the Tribe of  Ephraim. The remnant of the R1b U152 in the Rhodan kingdom of Australia moved to Russia via Oman and Afghanistan after 1530 along with the remnant of Manasseh of R1a Z93 (found among the Pashtuns). The Manassehite Pashtuns joined the Benjaminite Afghans of Q ydna after 1530. 

The R1b U152 Z56 S145 Reubenite Bashkirs (35% of all Bashkiri) joined the Mongolian Bashkirs (C ydna and O ydna are about 3 % of all Bashkiri) after 1530, along with some Naphtalites (N ydna is 17% of all Bashkiri), Zerah-Judaites (R1b M73 is 2 % of all Bashkiri) and some Jewish (R1b Ht 35 is 13 % of all Bashkiri) and some Ephraimite Bashkirs (R1a Z280 is 26% of all Bashkiri). The original Bashkirs were those of the warrior ruling class of  N ydna of the Hephthalites or Naphtalites (originally from their Naphtalite kingdom in Siberia) with the Parthian R1a peoples who were part of their Hephthalite Empire (400-700 AD) in the Hindu Kush area of Afghanistan. Another branch of the Hephthalites or White Huns went to Hungary in the 9th century. Much of the warrior class of N ydna went north to the Baltic region with many of the R1a lower classes (Ephraimite Parthians and Slavs) bringing their language to Estonia and Finland.

Further deep clade testing of both ancient and modern dna is necessary. For example R1b found among natives in the Americas or Australasia is often presumed to have come into their groups though recent European migration when in fact some of it may be in the population from earlier times. Thus Aboriginals in Australia who test for R1b U152 are automatically presumed to have had some kind of French input by French sailors rather than coming from the older R1b U152 of the Rhodan or Reubenite white people of pre-1530 Chabor in Central Australia. The bulk of these white people left Australia in 1530 and are now found mainly among the Baskirs of Russia (especially high among the Bashkirs of the north of Bashkorstan) and among people now living on the border region Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. Even with ancient dna we have the problem of the faulty dating methodologies who give inaccurate dates for such remains. Thus we have R1a remains in Western China being dated to 2000 BC rather than to post 600 BC.






see

The Hebrew Y-dna: A New Understanding

2 comments:

Joe said...

Hi, quick question. Do you think God will find descendants based on yDNA (paternal) instead of maternal? I had heard that Jewish custom was based on the maternal line. Thank you.

Catholic Jew said...

One's Jewishness is based on maternal lineage but ones tribal status is usually based on paternal ancestry. Thus if the Lost Tribes are identified with the benefit of genetics then ydna would be an important factor. However God ways are not always our ways so one must remain open to all possibilities.